Re: The Jontu-Matulef Disinformation Show
From: "Jontu" <thetaone@icehouse.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: The Jontu-Matulef Disinformation Show
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:20:26 -0700
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"Paul Matulef" <paul@here.com> wrote in message
news:3CC4AAEF.7080802@here.com...
Hush Jontu! You told them too much already.
Knowing that the enslavers would infiltrate and take-over the church TTA,
and that they would corrupt the technology and prevent access to his
original works, apparently Ron tricked them and intentionally let the vast
majority of copyrights to to his original works go into the public domain.
Thus, the TRUE owners of the copyrights are actually the peoples of Earth.
The enslavers, realizing too late that they had been tricked and had lost
control of the copyrights, they instituted several solutions:
Denial
File copyright applications despite the fact that the they had no right
to.Collect up the original materials to get them out of circulation.
Create new corporate entities to "receive" the illegal copyrights.
Fraudulently "transfer" copyrights which they didn't actually own.
Alter the original materials to make BOTWO versions, and get legitimate
copyrights on those owned by their new corporate entities.Denial
From: The Librarian Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Date: 13 Sep 2001 08:05:53 -0000
Subject: YOO-HOO! PTSC! About Those Copyrights PART 1
"...Oh, there were just scads of allegations
flying around for years about some of the copyrights having lapsed into
the public domain. There are just reams of posts and legal documents
and all sorts of vague accusations and claims and counterclaims and
hoohah about it! But that's, like, a whole spooky story in itself. It's
almost as spooky as CST."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike McClaughry" <charlis@icehouse.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:24 PM
Subject: Mike Answers CL on Copyright Fraud
"...In this 4 part series on copyrights, the Librarian makes some incorrect
statements, apparently in an effort to lead one to the false conclusion that
CST is the valid owner of LRH copyrights.
Here I will present data that shows that CST does not legally own any LRH
copyrights..."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jontu" <thetaone@icehouse.net>
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:17 AM
Subject: LTA and the Akashic Book of Records
"...One of the curves involves the copyrights to all of his original
writings which, due to some clever manuevers by LRH with the original HASI,
actually fell into the public domain years ago. But RTC/CST has been busy
covering that up, altering his original works, and then copyrighting the
changes so they can maintain control."
----- Original Message -----
From: "FACTNet International" <manage@factnet.org>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: whatever happened to Sten-Arne?
Jontu" <thetaone@icehouse.net> wrote in message
news:3cbb82a7$1@news2.lightlink.com...
Hey Larry, glad you showed up because I have a quick question for you:
I have heard that sometime back FACTNet was sued by RTC for copyright
infringement, and that Vaughn Young and I believe Jessie Prince were
proving that specific issues within the list of alleged copyright
violations were fraudulent, based on the fact that the copyrights on these
issues had previously gone into the public domain.
Do you have a list of which issues were proven to be in the public domain?
Thanks.
Dan Liepold was the lawyer in the case. You will have to consult with him.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Owen" <ronthewarhero@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: ESSAY: Scientology and Copyright
"...Although a few of L. Ron Hubbard's early works have escaped into the
public domain due to technical mistakes by the Church of Scientology, the
vast majority appear to be safe until at least the 2050s and probably well
beyond..."
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So there appears to be a lot of "Look over here! Look over there!" going on
at the lower levels, trying to keep people's attention focused too low or
too late on the chain, and therefore off of the higher level VABs and what
is REALLY going on.
Now this particular area is a very tricky one, which if not managed very
carefully, can have significant detrimental ramifications for those behind
the scenes.
On the one hand, the enslavers want a lot of discussion about how bad the
church is and how corrupt the management is because it forwards their
purpose of destroying the chuch and ultimately Scientology itself.
On the other hand, if not very carefully controlled with precise vector
management, it can easily backfire on them if people start looking at all of
the fraud which has been perpetrated around the copyrights. And I don't
mean just faking the copyrights themselves.
You see, it could begin to call into question offical government involvement
in this whole sordid mess, and how much certain "officials" knew about what
was going on and why it was done. A why that involves "national security".
And that is the point at which this turns into a real sticky mess for them.
They'd be happy to destroy the church and shut it down because of all the
criminal activity perpetrated by the current management, but they are
probably not prepared for the string to be pulled any further than the
church. Who knows what could unwravel and fall out of the spider's web
then.
And they also realize that if the full truth about the copyrights going into
the public domain were to become widely circulated and known-about, they
would forever lose their lever of control over people and their use of the
subject...
And the people of Earth would realize that Ron did indeed achieve his aim of
giving them the tech.

